Amanda: Hey, there all you true crime fans. I'm Amanda.
Kori: And I'm Kori.
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Kori: Well, kids, it's time for another terrible dad joke. Are you ready?
Amanda: I'm never ready for these jokes, but go on.
Kori: What do lawyers wear to court?
Amanda: What, lawsuits? No, it's still terrible.
Kori: Hey, and thanks to all you truetime fans that are sending me all these dad jokes to read on the air. I'm going to pick one. I have enough probably, to pick for the next 15 episodes, so thanks so much. Shout out to my sister Annie, who sent me, like, 15 today.
Amanda: Get it, Annie? Thanks, fan. Annie.
Kori: And Brennan sent me one, too.
Amanda: So, yes, bren did. I actually read Bren's to my dad last night, and he was like, I like that.
Kori: Yeah, my sister sent me, like, 14. She has a dad joke calendar.
Amanda: Oh, that's awesome.
Kori: Yeah, so she's been sending me she sent me all of them while she's been on vacation, so she sent them all to me when she got back.
Amanda: Yeah, she was being crazy on her vacation. I would not go fishing. I can sleep in that camper thing.
Kori: And go, yeah, there's no bathroom in there, so you can imagine how that works out.
Amanda: Yeah, that's a no for me, dog.
Kori: It's six dudes in her ice fishing.
Amanda: You lost me with the six dudes.
Kori: Yeah. One of them is my cousin, and one of them is his cousin, and one of them is my sister's boyfriend.
Amanda: I don't care.
Kori: It's still ice fishing. And I don't really like fishing.
Amanda: Me either. You have to be quiet.
Kori: Yeah.
Amanda: I remember Grey, my stepdad, was like, a big bass fisher, so he would go fishing all the time. I'm like, can we do something? I fell asleep so many times on that boat. He's like, you're scaring all the fish away. Stupid. So quiet.
Kori: It is stupid.
Amanda: I don't want to be quiet. That's why we have a podcast, right? All my suppressed conversations.
Kori: All your suppressed conversations from when you were a child. You're doing on here?
Amanda: All my murder conversations. I was that weird kid, though.
Kori: We were, too, because well, you know, your dad was a cop. Mine was a cop. Like, table chat is different when you're yes. And my dad my dad was a cop, and my mom was a nurse, so we talked about all kinds of jacked up things.
Amanda: Oh, my God. So I was back at high school on Thursday last week, and I was talking to this girl. She was like this cute little blonde thing we're chitchatting, and I guess they had, like, drug sniffing dogs in the day before. And she was like, I texted my mom and I had to tell her. And she was like, well, I hope you don't have your drugs on you. And she goes, no, mom, just my meth and my cocaine. And I was like, oh, my God, you are my kindred spirit. That is so my sense of humor. I send myself at all these drug jokes all the time. It's fine. You in public are probably like, what is wrong with you?
Kori: Well, it's always interesting when you hang out with people who aren't in that I don't want to say lifestyle, but I mean lifestyle. Yeah. When you have to feel out the conversation. Do I talk about body parts at the table or do we talk about the weather?
Amanda: Right.
Kori: We also have some friends that are in the nursing home business and that's similar, so we can talk about some pretty I mean, some pretty jacked up things there too.
Amanda: Well, that would be so sad.
Kori: Yeah.
Amanda: I love old people. I don't think I could work with them. I have like an imaginary collection of them. And Chris always laughs at me, but I think I would bring them home. It's like working with animals, with animals, because I would have a menagerie of humans and animals, old people and pets.
Kori: Can just tell me, hey, you could volatitate at this humane society. And I'm like I looked at her and she's like, maybe not. She only have three dogs looking for.
Amanda: But they need a home. So sad.
Kori: Can you imagine just bringing home dogs, cats, birds, **** this hamster. I don't even like hamsters, but I'd.
Amanda: Be like it's so cute. My mom, because she did animal control, she used to bring home like squirrels and stuff all the time.
Kori: Oh, geez.
Amanda: And like bottle baby kittens. We had puppies once.
Kori: Is she still doing animal control?
Amanda: She is.
Kori: Oh, nice.
Amanda: Yeah, until they finally decide to abandon me and move away to Nebraska. There's nothing wrong with Nebraska if you're from Nebraska and you're listening, but there is something wrong when you're in Colorado and your parents are abandoning you.
Kori: I don't know. I abandoned my parents and I feel pretty good about it. Well, that's a story for a different episode. We don't have that kind of time for my emotional drama name. Okay.
Amanda: The abandonment issues are coming in fierce right now.
Kori: Right?
Amanda: Fine. It's fine. I'm fine.
Kori: Whatever.
Amanda: All right, all you cool cats and kittens, let's get into some true crime updates.
Kori: Fantastic.
Amanda: So I'm sure everybody knows, but there was yet another mass shooting at another school on Monday, February 13. Anthony Duane McRae, who was 43, killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University. The shooter had no known ties to the university and no one's actually sure why he targeted it. He had two legal but unregistered handguns and magazines when he was found. Police contacted McGray when they received a description of him walking down the street. Officers stood about 20ft away from McRae and ordered him to show them his hands. He produced a weapon and then killed himself. It appears on body camera footage that he doesn't say anything to the police prior to him taking his own life prior to the shooting. McGray was arrested in 2019 for carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, which in Michigan is a felony. He pleaded guilty to misdemeanor possession of a firearm and spent one and a half years on probation. The police found two pages of notes which indicated that he actually had planned to attack two other schools. Ariel Anderson was just 19 years young when her life was so pointlessly taken. She was studying to become a doctor one day. She was the youngest of three siblings and graduated from high school in 2021. Alexandria Werner was a 20 year old junior who was studying biology. She was an exceptional athlete who played volleyball, basketball, and softball. She left behind two siblings and her parents, and the final victim was Brian Frazier. He was a 20 year old president of the Michigan Beta chapter of Pi Delta Theta. He was studying business before his murder. He was described as a great leader and a friend.
Kori: Those mass shootings so crazy.
Amanda: It's so sad. To me, that's like a whole other can of worms.
Kori: Different podcast.
Amanda: Different podcast, guys.
Kori: Not even episode I talk about right now.
Amanda: I know. I don't even know the topic we can cover on our podcast.
Kori: No, it's too crazy and there's too many varying opinions.
Amanda: There are. And honestly, I feel like it's kind of like a situational thing and not school shootings, but guns and gun control and all of that.
Kori: Yes.
Amanda: What do you have for us this week?
Kori: So I have two. I know. So the first one is an interesting story from my new state. Get this, it involves a train. I know what you're all thinking, but that case is in Tennessee, and that's a whole different story.
Amanda: Oh, God. The Memes are funny, though.
Kori: They are funny. I love them. So this story happened on the Juliet Metro train where Steven Spangler was standing on the side waiting for his train when 49 year old Unhoused resident Carlos Hernandez pushed him off the side. Yeah, the video surveillance showed that Steven and Carlos were talking right before Carlos pushed him over. Like, you're just standing there talking, gets mad at you and pushes you on the rails. Like rude.
Amanda: Yeah. Were they friends before?
Kori: No, they were just two guys standing there having to chat. A chitty chatty.
Amanda: Chat.
Kori: A chitty chat. And apparently Carlos got mad and pushed him over.
Amanda: Oh, my God.
Kori: So Steven was ran over by two trains and decapitated.
Amanda: Oh, my gosh.
Kori: Carlos was arrested and charged with first degree murder, and he's currently being held on a $1 million bond in the Will County Jail.
Amanda: Jeez.
Kori: Yeah, that's interesting. So my second story is from Colorado, not too far from where I lived, actually. So. February 19, 2023. Fort Collins Police Services. They don't like to be called fort Collins Police Department. They're fort Collins Police Services responded to a shop lifting incident at a store in southeast Fort Collins. Officers located the suspect, later identified as Patricia Rodriguez, and transferred her to the Larrymore County Jail. This, people, is where it gets interesting. After entering the vehicle bay, the arresting officer secured his duty weapon, which is required prior to entering the booking area. When the officer tried to remove Rodriguez from the vehicle, he found that she had slipped out of her handcuffs, manipulated the storage safety measures and accessed his gun. She attempted to take him hostage at gunpoint, but the officer was able to escape to the secure booking area. The suspect then barricaded in the police vehicle and refused to come out. Fort Collins Police Officers, lamar County Sheriff's Deputies, the LCSO All Hazards Crisis Response Team, fort Collins Police Services, SWAT Team, LCSO Crisis Negotiators, Putter Valley Fire Authority and UC Health EMS all responded to assist.
Amanda: What a mess.
Kori: So I'm not trying to make fun of them, but for God's sakes, law enforcement used numerous less than lethal tools in an effort to get Rodriguez to surrender. So approximately 07:30 p.m.. 3 hours later, from the time she was arrested, she exited the vehicle and was safely taken into custody. With the assistance of the LCSO canine, rodriguez was evaluated by medical personnel, then booked into Larimer County on three active warrants. Two no bond felony one, misdemeanor and the following charges first degree assault, which is a felony first degree aggravated robbery, also a felony, attempted second degree kidnapping, which is also a felony criminal mischief felony, disarming a police officer, felony and resisting arrest, which is just a misdemeanor.
Amanda: We just threw it in there.
Kori: Yeah, right. Like the rest of it. I mean, she is in Lauren Moore County, so I'm sure her bond will be like, $2,000, but yeah, whatever.
Amanda: Welcome to the US judicial system.
Kori: And I'm also not saying that crime should be expensive, but I think you should assign bonds according to the charges and not just because you want people to get out of jail. So, according to the sheriff, John Fayon, he says this suspect showed a disturbing disregard for the lives of first responders, the inmates in our care and our community. He also says that he is extremely grateful to everyone who worked together to safely resolve this incident and minimize disruption to jail operations. Challenging situations like this demonstrate the importance of top notch training and strong relationships. So according to the Larimer County website, fort Collins Police Services will file separate charges for the initial theft incident and her booking photo was not available. All charges are merely an accusation, and the defendant has proved incident until and unless proven guilty. Can you imagine the whole jail being on lockdown for 3 hours?
Amanda: Oh, my God. No.
Kori: Because you know how it would have.
Amanda: Been really fun to watch.
Kori: All the while he's running away oh, my God. Trying to get into the secure booking area.
Amanda: Right. She has his secured duty weapon.
Kori: Yeah. Another podcast.
Amanda: I did want to mention. They had a canine that was actually killed in the line of duty. His name was Graffiti, I believe. Where was this at? This was in golden. He was killed on February 13 of this year after an incident occurred at the School of Mines. Oh, I know.
Kori: That's too bad.
Amanda: I know. That always makes me really sad. All right, friends, without further ado, let's get into the murder of Leah Porter. Leah was just 19 years old when she went missing on June 3, 2014. Her disappearance is almost too wild to even believe. So Leah's brother and his friend were actually the ones who obtained a confession from a former friend turned criminology student. But before we get into the details of her disappearance, let's talk about the person at the root of our story leah. So Leah was funny, smart, beautiful, a sister and a daughter. She was born on December 20, 894. She had her whole life ahead of her. Her mom described her as social and kind of a joker. Her brother was her best friend. She was constantly taking selfies and documenting her life. Her life got a little complicated when she began dating a man who was 20 years older than she was. She had plans of becoming a massage therapist, but those plans changed when she began using heroin regularly and dropped out of college. She tried to get sober, even attending Narcotics Anonymous meetings. Six months later, Leah was single with no place to live, depressed and battling a raging addiction. Her boyfriend Jesse had moved back to the East Coast, and Leah was couchsurfing her way through the Denver metro area. Leah's mom Renee, and brother Max tried, to no avail, to reach Leah. They called and called, but became concerned when her phone, which seemed to be permanently attached to her, went to voicemail. Max called Leah's, now exboyfriend Jesse, demanding to know where she was. Jesse told Max that the two were in constant contact after he left, but he hadn't heard from her in several days. Jesse immediately knew something was wrong. He knew how close Max and Leah were. They spoke daily. Jesse was brought in for questioning, but had a strong alibi and wasn't considered a suspect.
Kori: While police were speaking with Jesse, renee began scouring her phone records for clues. She noticed that Leah had called the same number multiple times. That number belonged to Christopher Wade. Christopher and Leah had grown up in Kotapaxi, Colorado, together and attended the same high school. Christopher was a choir and a theater kid. He had joined the army after graduating and worked as a helicopter mechanic, which, if you can get into that, that's a freaking good job. Heck, yeah. He served in the military for two years and then decided to attend college. He was majoring in criminal justice. His plan was to become a police officer.
Amanda: So this totally gives me Brian Koberger vibes, right?
Kori: Which is military.
Amanda: Homeboy had some wishes, right?
Kori: Yeah.
Amanda: Homeboy had some troubles. But if you guys don't know who Brian Koberger is, he is the suspect in the University of Idaho murders. But go on.
Kori: Renee called Christopher and he told her he was Leah's accountability partner to help her stay clean. A sort of sponsor situation. Christopher told Renee that Leah had been in his apartment at the night of June 3, but left abruptly without reason. He said that was the last time he spoke to Leah. This came as a shock to Renee. As far as she knew, her daughter wasn't on drugs. Again, Renee felt off about the conversation and reported it to the police. He was brought in for questioning. Westminster Police were told a similar story as Renee. He was Leah's accountability partner. She had stopped by on the evening of June 3, but left with someone in a white truck. He then added that the two had gone to Boston Market for dinner and then went back to his apartment to play video games shortly after. That was when she supposedly left in the white truck.
Amanda: Christopher might have gotten away with being the cooperative friend if he hadn't appeared to be overcooperative. This only furthered the family's suspicion. Leah's vehicle and all her belongings were found in the parking lot of the apartment complex Christopher lived in. The vehicle was processed for blood and DNA, but nothing was discovered. Police suspicion grew stronger when it was discovered that Christopher had been discharged from the military after he admitted that he tried to rape and murder a girl in high school but was scared away by a family member who happened to be home at the time. Police had nothing to tie Christopher to Leah's disappearance, but felt he was their guy. He was under constant surveillance in hopes he would accidentally lead investigators to her. This is when the family's frustration came to a boiling point. Max decided to leave his life in California and return home to find Leah. He reached out to former friends from high school for more information on Christopher. He was informed that Christopher kept a very detailed journal chalked full of sadistic fantasies. His writings depicted his desire for sex slaves in gory rape and murder scenes. Gross, right?
Kori: Yeah. So Max, he went and befriended Christopher. He wanted to get close enough that Christopher would trust him again. Bad plan. This has happened. The last two podcasts like, what are you doing? So he knew that if he jumped the gun, christopher would shut down and the family would never know what happened to Leah. When max felt he had built enough trust he and a friend decided to confront Christopher in a park. The interaction was recorded and no one, not even Max, could have predicted what Christopher would say. Christopher began to explain June 3 to Max. He said the two went and grabbed dinner at a nearby Boston market and then returned and had consensual sex. Then Leah asked for drug money and Christopher said no. He claimed that Leah became enraged, grabbed a knife and tried to stab him, all while demanding money for drugs.
Amanda: Let's mention, though, that she was £98. Guys, she was not a big person by any stretch of the imagination.
Kori: No, she was tiny.
Amanda: Tiny bitty, bitty little thing.
Kori: So Christopher told Max, remember, this is Leah's brother that he grabbed Leah by the throat to get her to let go of the knife. He said, I thought her muscles relax when she went unconscious and then I could gradually move the knife away and let her go to regain her consciousness. But that didn't happen. Max punched Christopher in the face, as any good brother would have hell, yeah. Before his friend pulled him off. And the two called the police. That's when Max forced Christopher to confess to the dispatcher. The two men subdued Christopher until the police arrived, which didn't take long. Police had been suspicious of Christopher since their first interaction and had him under surveillance. In fact, the police were watching while Max and his friend went all vigilante. Christopher was taken into custody and quickly lawyered up.
Amanda: So this Boston Market in question, that's actually where I got my first dog. I had to fight a little girl for him. Yeah, that's where we got Riley.
Kori: Oh, nice. You had to fight a child?
Amanda: Well, it was my finest moment.
Kori: Find children all over the world, you know? It happened when I got Franklin. It wasn't my finest moment either. I also found a child.
Amanda: See? Yeah, I held him first.
Kori: My dog.
Amanda: Exactly.
Kori: Me too.
Amanda: We went inside because we were like I think we were still 17 when we got Riley, Chris and I. And we went inside and we were.
Kori: Like, do we want a dog?
Amanda: And I was like, ****, yes, we want a puppy. Because that's just like, who I am as a person, even now. And we went back and this little kid was holding Riley. And I was like.
Kori: I'm sorry, that's my dog.
Amanda: Yeah. I was like, we'll take a puppy, but we won that one that she's holding. And the guy was like, I'm so sorry. They were here first. I was like, thank you. But anyway, I digress. I digress. So while talking to police after his telephone confession christopher stayed true to his story that Leah had attacked him with a knife. But now he admitted to killing her in self defense. After he killed her, he immediately began using his skills he learned in criminology school to cover up her murder. Christopher said, quote, I reclosed her and placed her on the bed while I started off gathering her belongings from where they were in the living room and bringing them into my bedroom, end quote. He then forced Leah's body into a duffel bag and said he threw her away in the complex's trash. After officers received this information, they began searching the landfills. Teams spent 40 days searching for Leah's body. 40 days sifting through trash. 40 days hoping to give Leah's family closure. 40 days, but still came up empty handed. Leah's body wasn't located in the landfill. A pillowcase with her cell phone, wallet, ID, and her clothes were found, but not Leah. Not the most important part. Without a body, prosecutors offered him a plea. Christopher wade, now known as prisoner number 170598, pleaded guilty to second degree murder and was sentenced to a whopping 48 years in prison. He will be eligible for parole in 2048. At the time of this recording, leah's body has not been found. Any tips regarding her whereabouts can be shared with fremont county crimestoppers at 719-275-7867, via email at
[email protected], or by sending a private message on the helps find leah facebook page. So what do you think? Do you think that justice was served?
Kori: I think 48 years for second degree murder is a pretty long time. I don't think he'll be out on parole. He's a psychopath. However, I don't think he threw her body in the dumpster. I think he knows exactly where it is, and I think he's just not saying.
Amanda: I agree.
Kori: He did something with that body and it wasn't a dumpster.
Amanda: No. He had plans of doing this for so long.
Kori: He had notebooks filled with this sort of thing.
Amanda: Right.
Kori: He knew what he was doing. Plus he was taking criminology.
Amanda: This was a game to him. She's a trophy. And when he is released, he will go find her.
Kori: Hopefully he won't be released for a long time.
Amanda: How old was that guy went to jail? He was young. 26, I believe.
Kori: So he'll be 70 in the 70s when he finally gets out. If he gets out. If he doesn't die in prison. I mean, 70 is a bit old. I mean, it could happen, but crazy.
Amanda: Just a bad dude.
Kori: Yeah.
Amanda: And like, good for her brother, I think. That's so cool.
Kori: Don't do it stupid.
Amanda: But the case wouldn't have gotten as far as it did without her brother, I don't think.
Kori: Yeah. I have a little news thing that I wanted to mention real quick. There was a police officer in a canine killed in their patrol car when a vehicle hit them and also killed a pedestrian. It was in Kansas City. He worked for the Kansas city police department, so that's a little bit sad. And his dog was only three. And they were just sitting in their car, and a car came by, hit them and killed them and an additional pedestrian.
Amanda: Oh, man. That is sad.
Kori: Yeah. It just happened on the 16th, so not that long ago.
Amanda: I hate when dogs die.
Kori: I know. Hold on just 1 second. Sorry. My wife is leaving for work.
Amanda: Gosh. Bye, wife.
Kori: I know. Amanda says, bye, wife. Somebody has to make money around here. She says, Somebody has to make my money.
Amanda: You're **** right. Now get to work.
Kori: Amanda says, you're **** right. Now get to work.
Amanda: She's like, **** both of you.
Kori: Yeah, pretty much.
Amanda: I love you. Have a good day. You have to go to work. Work blows chunks.
Kori: It really does. Okay. I think our talking in between is pretty good, too. I think we should keep that up.
Amanda: I know. I feel like I kicked it all out, this episode. Now I know.
Kori: You're so rude. I know.
Amanda: Now there's no chitty chatting.
Kori: Now people are going to be like, this podcast blows.
Amanda: All we ever talk about is murder.
Kori: So I have a little story to tell. So, as you all know, I moved from Colorado to Illinois. I've only said it in every single podcast because I'm a Leo and a Narcissist. So there's that.
Amanda: That's your personality now.
Kori: That's my personality now moved. I'm new here. Yeah. That's my old personality now.
Amanda: Four years later, Corey still new, right?
Kori: I'm still new. Don't move here.
Amanda: We just moved.
Kori: That's how it is. Just moved in. I worked at the jail in Weld County for the second time because I just couldn't quit that place. I had an addiction. It's fine. Whatever. So on my last couple of my last week or so there, I decided that torturing my boss was my new game. And if you all know me, when I do something, I go all in. Like, my whole goal. It's my job. So shout out to my boss, Captain Turner. He was great.
Amanda: Turner?
Kori: Yeah, he's a great dude. He is a fantastic leader. And he's also fantastic because he has a lovely, lovely eight by ten photo of me in a lovely picture frame that I used glitter on and wrote my name and wrote his name in glitter. Glitter and glue. The guy who was second grader.
Amanda: He hates you.
Kori: Yeah. And it's a fantastic picture of me at my going away party where I look so happy, one of my coworkers put it on his credenza so he has a reminder of how amazing I was. And my arm does not get tired, in case you're all wondering, of patting myself on the back.
Amanda: We were all wondering.
Kori: It doesn't get tired. So then, because I'm dramatic, I also sent him flowers the last week of January. So he had a little time to think that I wasn't up to anything. And it's a lovely, lovely sympathy plant, because sad, I was leaving. And it says always in our hearts on the pot. And it's a plant, not flower, so he can look at it and enjoy these lovely roses that I had sent to him with a little card that says, I'm so sorry you have to miss me, because, like I said in previous Molio and a little bit of a narcissist. So shout out to my former boss who now has a picture and a plant, a reminder of me in his office. He was a little sketched out when these plants got sent to him. He thought it was a scam. My old coworker said that he's never laughed so hard as when he found out that it was from me. My coworker, he's like, when I told him he first had flowers, he was suspicious. He was like, I'm afraid this is the bomb. And then he read the card and said, are you freaking kidding me? It's from Corey.
Amanda: Oh, my God.
Kori: I love it.
Amanda: I gave you a sympathy card, too.
Kori: I know.
Amanda: I'm sorry for your loss. The loss of me, because you're moving from me.
Kori: Yeah, I love it. My former coworker said that that was the most coreist thing ever.
Amanda: Corey is them.
Kori: Well, we have a saying there. WWKD what would Cory do?
Amanda: Oh, my God. We have WWKD but it's what Would Chris Do? And it's funny because Chris is like, I love you, honey, but you're incredibly ****. And he vacuums all the time. He actually told me yesterday that I throw him under the bus in every episode, so I had to get my little dig in there. But my sister in law was like, we'll go to put something on the counter, and then I remember, WWKD what would Chris do? He'd put it away right away. So now I just put it away. So, Jaini, hope you know Chris is always with you. WWKD.
Kori: I do want to throw you both under the bus. You do have a lot of freaking vacuums.
Amanda: We do.
Kori: You have a vacuum everywhere.
Amanda: We have. And Rosie and Jarvis then have two regular floor vacuums.
Kori: Not like you guys have a lot of carpet either.
Amanda: We have zero carpet, but we have a lot of carpet. And we used to have a lot of dogs.
Kori: We don't have carpet either. We also have vacuum.
Amanda: They all decided they didn't love us this year. It was very sad.
Kori: It is sad. I'm sorry about your loss.
Amanda: Thank you. I expect your plant.
Kori: No, we do. We do have a lot of accent. Sorry.
Amanda: This is all you're getting. **** it. Be grateful I even said that.
Kori: Remember narcissist?
Amanda: Yeah, we do. We have a lot of vacuums. Chris is really angry.
Kori: He's a clean freak. Yeah, but I'm like that, too. If I see cups laying around, I empty whatever's in them and put them in the dishwasher, and somebody will be like, hey, where's my cup? And I'm like, oh, took it. Put it in the dishwasher.
Amanda: I'm like, I was wearing out of that. He's like, oh, I thought you were done. I'm like. Still piping hot. Like I just poured myself a cup of tea. And he's like, oh, sorry.
Kori: Do that away.
Amanda: It's pretty much thanks, honey. One time he actually threw away my Mother's Day gift from Lincoln. Lincoln made me, like this whole little like I think it was a rocket. And Chris threw it away. And Lincoln was so mad. And he only had to go dig through the trash. And it was like this whole thing. And then Lincoln was more ****** that I had a present. Trash on the trash. Yeah, I was like, it's fine. I still have it. We saved it. Because I was like, whoa, man.
Kori: I just have an upstairs vacuum and a downstairs vacuum. And currently my upstairs vacuum is possessed. So it just starts vacuuming on random times and random days that it's not scheduled. So I'm not really sure what's going on with it. I need to sit down and research problems with it on the Internet. Because I'm not even kidding you. It just vacuums whenever it feels like it.
Amanda: I should start my vacuum now. Speaking of which, I have not checked, though, to see if there's dog babies in the way. Not the dogs, but they're babies. But I just started it, so we'll see.
Kori: My littlest dog likes to stand in front of it because he knows it will move around him. Yeah, he's kind of a **** with the vacuum.
Amanda: Luna doesn't like the vacuum. Penny is terrified of him. And Luna will stand there like, why are you trying to **** with my sister, man? And Penny is like, oh, god, that.
Kori: Can be so scary.
Amanda: Oh, yeah, she's neurotic I painted yesterday, and I had like a big five gallon bucket of paint. I had two little paints, like gallon bucket paints. And then I had a ladder. And they were by the basement door. And Penny's weird about that anyway because it's like the basement door and then the stairs that go up. And she just thinks that area is going to steal her soul. So I had to take everything downstairs before I could record because she was trapped in the living room.
Kori: She's like, I can't do it.
Amanda: And then all of a sudden you hear like and that's her trying to get her traction on the floor as she's trying to run by it. Oh, she's a nut. Dogs are so funny this weekend.
Kori: They really are.
Amanda: Well, we put new headlights in Chris's truck.
Kori: Oh, nice.
Amanda: Well, we couldn't see anything, and so we put new headlights in and we had, like, the door into the house open from the garage. And luna kept coming out. And she would stand there and she'd cry and cry and cry. Chris was like, what's wrong with her? I was like, well, she wants in the truck, so I'd have to open the door and let her in so she could pretend to drive.
Kori: That's how Franklin is. He needs to sit in the car all the time when we're out.
Amanda: Yeah, luna, too. She doesn't want to actually do anything. She likes to go for rides, but she just wanted to sit in there, and she was crying. Crying, crying.
Kori: Dogs.
Amanda: They hear the dogs.
Kori: Kids like, I don't know.
Amanda: I don't have any children.
Kori: Small children.
Amanda: True. I don't know. Your child's still funny, though.
Kori: She is funny.
Amanda: But speaking of children, I was talking about a crazy person that I've been ranting about for a while now. And we were driving to school, and Emerson's in the back seat, and she goes, mom, is that person really crazy? Like, they've been diagnosed by a doctor? And I was like, well, no, just by me. And she goes, oh, my gosh, mom. I do that, too. I diagnose people all the time. I just don't say it out loud. And I was like, **** it.
Kori: I love that kid. I'm really glad you had her for me.
Amanda: I'm so glad I had her for you, too.
Kori: We text each other. She's a pretty cool kid.
Amanda: She is pretty rad. She's pretty funny.
Kori: She is funny.
Amanda: My prison baby. Chris always tells people that he raised Emerson by himself for three years because I was in jail. **** off, man.
Kori: He's not lying, right?
Amanda: **** it. That story makes somebody so mad. Every time Mommy was not in jail, she worked there. And then it's even more funny because he's, like, really upset about it. Like, genuinely, since I was in prison.
Kori: He's very sensitive.
Amanda: He is very sensitive. He's the best, but he is very sensitive.
Kori: That's okay. There's nothing wrong with that.
Amanda: No, I just sometimes don't know how to handle him in sensitivity.
Kori: Yeah, because we're not sensitive people.
Amanda: No.
Kori: It's hard to not laugh at it.
Amanda: I know. And then I feel bad. I do spend a lot of time like, buddy, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to laugh. I know you were upset.
Kori: I'm sorry you thought your problems were really terrible. Are you homeless? No. Are you starving? No.
Amanda: Right.
Kori: Sorry. You can't play with your friends on Thursday.
Amanda: God. Should we do a shout out?
Kori: Sure, let's shout out some people. Shouty, shouty, shout, shout, shout it out. I mean, last episode, we said shout out, like, a lot.
Amanda: Oh, my God. I was editing, and I was, like, 17 times.
Kori: 17 times. So let's shout out to some subscribers because everybody likes to hear their name out loud. Probably not as much as me, but whatever. We do want to give a shout out to a subscriber Amber Priestley, who is amazing, by the way. This is her second review. She did review us on Spotify, where it's not like, a written review, it's a numbers review, which is also fine. We love stars, too. I want to give a little shout out to her business. She has a craft business on Etsy, rocky Mountain Country crafts. So go ahead and head on over there to Etsy and look what she has to offer. I've gotten a couple of things from her. They're all really adorable. She writes, love listening to this podcast. Amanda and Corey's dynamic is witty because we're hilarious.
Amanda: We really are.
Kori: And brings a lot of lividity to some otherwise heavy topics and situations. I also appreciate the extra respect and light given to the victims rather than their perpetrators. Keep it up, ladies. We'd like to thank you so much for this review. It really does help us. Thank you and we do enjoy. I think more focus needs to be on victims and less focus needs to be on perpetrators. Because the one thing all killers have in common is that they like to hear the sound of their own voice and their own names. And I think the more we talk about them, the more fame it gives them and the less it gives victims. And to be honest, it really is hard to find a lot of information on victims because they want to talk so much about the actual perpetrator. That's why there's so much information on killers and not a lot of information on victims, which is kind of sad. It is really sad. So that sucks.
Amanda: It does. It really is a goal of ours to make sure that the victim is and always is the center of our stories.
Kori: Yes, we want their stories to be heard.
Amanda: Absolutely. So we also have a review from our former coworker Ryan's wife. So she wrote, quote, love the podcast, thanks for the shout out on the last episode, end quote. So she gets two in a row because she's awesome. Thank you, former coworker Ryan's wife, whose actual name is Lisa. We really appreciate you guys and your kind words, though, so thank you so much. And next week, we are going to discuss the murder of Thomas Clements. He was the head of the Department of Corrections before he was murdered at his own home in 2013.
Kori: That was a scary murder.
Amanda: It really was.
Kori: Especially for people who worked in the correction field because Doc and county are two different types of lock ups. Department of Corrections is a little bit that's where you're sentenced. You've actually been sentenced to prison time. Prison time, yeah. Not jail time. Jail time is different than prison time. Just get that in.
Amanda: Jail time is county, right?
Kori: So people who say, yeah, that guy went to prison and he only served like 30 days, that's most likely county, not prison. Just a little FYI and some prison jargon.
Amanda: Mail jargon in case you're on if you're ever on Jeopardy, now you know.
Kori: Yeah.
Amanda: The more you know, the more you know.
Kori: So that's going to be a super great episode. Make sure to listen. Fridays, 1030 Mountain Standard Time. We hope you guys are enjoying all our social media posts. I'm having a lot of fun doing those. I love looking for pictures of blood and guts and gore. And stay tuned. This week, I got some pretty good facts about blood. Some fingerprint facts, some serial killer facts. Shout out to Robin Turley, because she really loves serial killer facts. Yes, she loves them. I was doing them for a while. I had a wipe off board on my office store where I had a dad joke. And then my office mate, I put a wipe off board on his door because, again, I'm bossy and I like people to do what I want.
Amanda: What? All those drawers, halloween parties and all the forced fun facts.
Kori: I just know what you should be doing.
Amanda: Exactly.
Kori: So I would write a serial killer fact on his board until the ladies and inmate services said that they were getting disturbed by all the facts. So I was like, fine, we'll do puppy facts. Whatever.
Amanda: **** it.
Kori: I know. So shout out to Robin. She's really enjoying these.
Amanda: Hi, Robin.
Kori: She likes them a lot.
Amanda: I'm her favorite. And you guys are wondering. She doesn't like anybody, but she loves me. I love you.
Kori: A funny story about her. And I like to say we didn't like each other. She likes to say that she liked me.
Amanda: Lies.
Kori: It's lies. All lies. So if you're listening, Robin, I love you as well.
Amanda: Goodbye.
Kori: So leave a review on Facebook. Start some conversations over there. You can start conversation on Instagram. You can give us topics. Don't forget to send me your jokes. I love reading dad jokes. It might get read on the podcast. It might get put on the Facebook page. You just never know. You can send them to our email. It's either
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[email protected]. Cory with DM. Yeah. Corey with Akkoriy. And Amanda common spelling.
Amanda: There's really not another way to spell it. I mean, you could do like A-M-A-N-D-U-H but I don't want to be Amanda.
Kori: Or like an at symbol or something. I don't know.
Amanda: I like that one.
Kori: Like am at sign. NDA.
Amanda: Yes. I tried to go by Mandy for a while, but I wanted to be Mandy with two. I's headed for a minute.
Kori: When I was younger, I wanted to change the name of my spelling, of my name, because I thought it was lame. I mean, Kori is pretty cool. Not a lot of people have it, but I want it to be K-O-R-R-I-E because fifth grade was fancy. So I tried writing it like that for a while and it didn't catch on.
Amanda: That's so funny. That's what happened with Mandy with an eye. I've never gone by Mandy, by the way. My mom like vehemently.
Kori: Yeah, you're not a teeny bopper from the Valley.
Amanda: No. Or Mandy Moore.
Kori: Now that I'm stereotyping. No, but Mandy Moore is like Mandy Moore.
Amanda: She's the best.
Kori: She's always been Mandy.
Amanda: I just love her sometimes.
Kori: You don't have to nickname. There doesn't have to be nicknames. You don't have to nickname.
Amanda: I made sure my kids were able to have nicknames because right.
Kori: I really wanted to do you wanted a nickname?
Amanda: I did. Honestly. I went by Lurch for, like, the majority of my childhood.
Kori: Well, you do have an Adams family last name.
Amanda: Yes, I did.
Kori: Before yeah, before you got the big ball and chain. Christopher.
Amanda: Thanks a lot, Chris. Kidding. I love you. Not as much as Robin, though. Robin, you're still my favorite.
Kori: Christopher, you're number four. Bye, Robin. We don't need two kids than you. Whatever.
Amanda: I got the dogs in there, too.
Kori: Okay, so ten. You know what?
Amanda: You made it in my top eight. Okay.
Kori: I mean, that's all we can hope for.
Amanda: That was a MySpace joke. For those of you who are old enough to MySpace. I had a dream about MySpace the other day.
Kori: I loved MySpace.
Amanda: I did, too. You could have music.
Kori: Yeah. And you could customize your backgrounds and stuff. Like, you could code and do your own background. It was so cool.
Amanda: It was cool. I didn't know what the hell I was doing.
Kori: Me neither, but I always had a fancy background.
Amanda: Yeah, me, too.
Kori: I even did one of my coworkers backgrounds.
Amanda: I did not none of those before.
Kori: She hated me, so whatever. I don't know how anyone could hate this face. My face made referral radio.
Amanda: That's so funny. All right, fans, until next time. Thank you so much for joining us today. Please keep the case requests coming. If you haven't already, please subscribe so you can be notified every time we upload. If you enjoy listening to us every week, please leave us a review on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. We will pick another listener next week for another shout out. New episodes are released every Friday at 10:30, a.m. Mountain Standard Time. Please follow us on Instagram at Colorado Crime Pod or on Facebook at Colorado Crime Podcast for information on next week's episode, as well as other true crime happenings, we hope you have a beautiful day wherever you are, and as always, stay safe.
Kori: Well, kids, eventually one of these taglines will stick, and I'll keep the same one, but probably not. So it's so hard to leave until you leave, and then it's the easiest thing in the world. Bye bye for now.
