Episode 37- January 2024 Crime Updates

Amanda: Hey, there, all you true crime fans. I'm Amanda. Kori: And I'm Corey. Amanda: And welcome back to Colorado Crime. So this week, we're going to do something a little bit different, and we are going to talk about just some things that are happening in the true crime space. But before we do that, I just wanted to say thank you guys so much because, as you guys know, I recorded a tv episode for Investigation Discovery. It was about the murder of Thomas Bashline. And you guys have been so sweet to me. And the outpouring of support has just been truly amazing. You guys are just, like, the best. And thank you for being so sweet to me. I've received so many messages about the episode about me and my dog because the golden retriever was penny. So if you guys want a potograph, just let me know. She's sending them out. But, yeah, you guys have just been so great. So thank you so much for loving us and for supporting us and just being so sweet to. It is. It's such a great case, and I'm so glad that you guys watched it. And you guys just. I mean, it was really cool. So thank you, guys. Corey, do you have anything you want to add before we jump in? Kori: No, but I would like to tell a joke because that's sort of a shtick. Amanda: Let's do it. Let's have a joke. Kori: Okay. Are you ready? Amanda: I am. Kori: How do you make a seven even? Amanda: Ooh, I don't know. Kori: You take away the s. Amanda: I like that. That's a good one. Kori: Hilarious. Amanda: Oh, that's funny. I like it a lot. Good job. Thanks. Kori: I just looked that up real quick. Amanda: Oh, that's okay. Speedy fingers. Well, cool. Is there something you want to talk about? Do you want me to jump into what I. Kori: Well, I had something and then I lost it. So go ahead with what you want to do. I don't know what screen I'm on. I don't know where I am. What's my life? Amanda: Who even are you? Kori: I don't know what's happening. Amanda: This is our podcast. Where am I? You could be here today. Kori: Sorry, folks. My first day. Amanda: I think, like, every episode is our first day. You're welcome. Well, have you guys seen the mysterious. It was like a suspicious death of three people in Kansas City. In Missouri, they found three people dead in a backyard, and they had gone to watch the Kansas City Chiefs game. And then these three men just never went home. It was 38 year old Ricky Johnson, 36 year old Clayton McGeaney, and 37 year old David Harrington. And apparently they were at their friend's house. They watched the game and they supposedly left at like 11:00 and never came home. And somebody lived in this house full time. This wasn't like they all left together. No, somebody still lived in this house. And so his friends were in the backyard for two days before he was originally from Denver. Check out our claim to don't know. I don't know if it's know. I know that there was no apparent sign of pal play, but how did you not notice that your three friends were dead in your backyard for two days? You just never looked out there. And it has been like, I've seen it reported that he had a dog, but the dog was at his parents house. Also. Kori: Weird. Amanda: I know. I'd be so sad if my dogs weren't here, but. Yeah, that's kind of still developing. But it just seems like a really weird situation. Kori: Yeah, all the friends of those people seem very angry. Amanda: I would be too. Apparently he avoided phone calls. People were knocking on the door and he wouldn't answer the door. Kori: And he finally came to the door, somebody claims, in his boxers with an empty wine glass. Amanda: I was like, hey, friends, what's happening? Kori: Hey, guys, how's it going? Amanda: Right? People are trying to get a hold of you and you just decided. And meanwhile, his friends, their cars were parked outside out front. So, okay, you didn't look in your backyard for two days, which I find ******* bananas because I watch my backyard like a freaking hawk. I don't know why, but I do. I'm always looking for little bunnies out there and sometimes we have owls and so I just kind of like glance out there every once in a while. And you didn't leave your house for two days and notice your friend's cars out front, right? I don't know. I find it weird. Kori: You're just chilling. Yeah, it's weird. It is weird. Amanda: Super weird. Kori: So I have a little update on Rex Howerman, the Gilgo beach serial killer suspect. Amanda: Yes. Let's hear it. Kori: He has actually been charged with a fourth murder of Maureen Brainerd Barnes. He pled not guilty to the new charge and I guess he's still maintaining his innocence and whatever, which. That's his. Amanda: Right. Kori: But apparently they found some new DNA evidence on leather belt that was used to restrain her. And she was actually restrained by three leather belts. One was used to tie her ankles together. But his attorney says that the DNA evidence is problematic. But I don't think so. I guess a hair was recovered from the belt buckle and it was unsuitable. But they have been doing some advances with DNA, and they were recently able to generate DNA sequencing data for the hair that was found on her. And it did confirm a link with Howerman. So that's kind of interesting. I don't know how. Amanda: Well, he was originally suspected in this, and everyone was kind of surprised when he wasn't charged with her murder, correct? Kori: Right. Yes. Amanda: Okay. Kori: Yes. But I guess the belt, however, was his wife's belt that he used, so that is also weird. Amanda: His ex wife, or are they still married? Kori: His soon to be ex wife. Amanda: Okay. Kori: Yes. Amanda: Interesting. Kori: Yeah. I don't know. They did find a bunch of guns. It's been a whole long investigation, so hopefully he'll at least get found guilty of these four murders. But I don't know, that fourth one is kind of. With that DNA sequencing and stuff, it's kind of a weird. Sometimes when you have a jury trial, people don't buy into the science. Yeah, which kind of sucks. But not everyone's as smart as Generation X and the generations after us. Amanda: Have you been keeping up with the Lindsay Clancy case? Kori: No. I'm just going to say, no, I haven't. I haven't done anything. I'm telling you, I'm the worst co host ever. I haven't done any work. I haven't looked at anything. I've done nothing. Amanda: Well, she ended up. So Lindsay Clancy was. They lived in Duxbury, which I believe is in Massachusetts. I could be wrong on. Kori: It's Massachusetts. Amanda: Okay, so she killed her three kids. She strangled them with exercise bands while her husband was out getting dinner, I believe. And, like, some child Mirlax for their. And, like, she had been suffering from mental illness for some time. Kori: Was that Susan Smith and then the other lady that drowned her. Amanda: Yates. Kori: Yes. Andrea Yates. Amanda: Yes. And so it was kind of like, hey, don't leave her alone with the kids. And so he was working from home. Her husband, well, she sends him out to get dinner, and while he's gone, she kills their kids. Like, okay, maybe she had a psychotic break, blah, blah, blah. Well, then it's come out recently that she had actually looked up how far it was from their house to this restaurant that they were getting food. Right after she killed her three kids. Kori: She tried to throw herself out of the window. Amanda: Threw herself out of a window? Kori: Yeah. Amanda: And just, like, completely bananas. And I've listened to some other podcasts about this case, specifically talking about how they didn't know anybody with postpartum, and I'll tell you, that's a lie. I mean, so many women deal with postpartum. Typically it's postpartum depression, sometimes postpartum psychosis, but it is so much more common than you think. But there's such a stigma around it that women don't talk about it as much because nobody wants to feel like no woman feel like, oh, God, I didn't love my kid. They should have come out, and I should have just been like, holy ****, I'm so enamored with you. I just worship the ground you walk on. But that's not the case for I not. Kori: Yeah, you're right. Amanda: Not everybody feels that I tmi here. I routinely told Chris, you're going to come home and find me hanging from the rafters. I really had a hard time with going from one to two. It's not that I didn't love my kids, but it was that hormones crash and I was so unstable. Like, I did not leave my house. Kori: Well, you also have a person who needs you all the time. All the time. You have no free time, no anything. Even if you have a spouse that helps you, it's still not enough help. Amanda: Right? They still leave. They still have to go to work. Life goes on. Your other kids still need. Kori: The United States has the worst parental leave. Amanda: It is really true. It is true. But after my first one, I was fine. Kori: Right, but you only had one. Amanda: But I only had the one. And Chris's family, they had him all the time, and they were so great. Well, then I stopped working at the jail. We had my other one, and I was like, what is my purpose in life? Right? Kori: I don't want these soul sucking. Amanda: Right? And it was people hard. And that hormone crash was terrible. But never in my life would I have ever harmed my kids. But I can see how it happened. I can see how it happens. But I definitely feel like that would have to be, like a mental break. You are alone with these kids and you're just completely overwhelmed. But if you knew you were overwhelmed with the two, you probably shouldn't have gone on to have the three. Kori: Yeah, she had a five, a three and an eight month old. Amanda: Right. And your husband was working from home, which I get that he was working, but there was still, like, another human there. Kori: I think. Also, society puts a big thing on the nuclear family, and that's not how it really. I mean, nuclear families are great and all, but not everybody wants to have kids. Amanda: Right? Kori: And I think a lot of women feel like that's what you're supposed to do. Amanda: Yes. Kori: So when you have them, you're like, I really didn't want these ones in the first place. Not that I don't love them, but. Amanda: Now what do I do with you, right? Kori: Because you get a boyfriend or a girlfriend, you get engaged, you get married, you have kids, you own a know, you do all these things that you're supposed to do, right. It's okay to say you don't want to have kids or it's okay to say you don't want to get married. All those things are okay. Amanda: Right. You don't have to do it just because Peter down the street. Kori: Right? Amanda: Yeah. Kori: Or because your mom wants. You think that's. I think sometimes we get, as a society, we pressure people who don't necessarily want to have kids in the first place. We pressure them into having kids. Amanda: Yeah. And at first, when I first heard about this, I thought, oh, my gosh, that poor lady. But now that I've kind of listened to a couple of other things on it, I'm like, right, this wasn't a psychotic break. This was planned. So that was my little. What's been on my brain lately? There's been a lot of stuff happening, like, in the true crime community. Kori: Yeah. Amanda: Just like a bunch of weird stuff. Kori: The innocence projects, for instance, taking up the case of Scott Peterson. Amanda: What? There is no maybe. There are. Maybe I'm totally wrong and out of line here. If I am, you guys let me know in the comments. But there is nobody who thinks this man is completely innocent. Kori: It says that according to the filings, because there's not a whole lot on it. It's just the innocence projects taking up. So attorneys with the La Innocence project claimed that Peterson's state and federal constitutional rights were violated, including a claim of actual innocence that is supported by newly discovered evidence, according to the court filings. Amanda: This is bananas to me. Kori: New evidence now supports Mr. Peterson's long standing claim of innocence and raises many questions into who abducted and killed Lacey and Connor Peterson. Amanda: Bananas? Kori: I don't think I buy that. Amanda: Bananas. You cannot tell me that while you knew your wife was dead, even if you didn't know your wife was dead, why are you on the phone with your girlfriend telling her that you're in Paris while you are at her? Kori: Yeah. Yeah. Amanda: That says ick all around. Kori: Yep. Yeah. There's a whole lot of ick. Amanda: Yeah. Kori: I can't even believe that. Amanda: No. And I would venture to say that he had help. Kori: I'm sure he did. I'm sure he had some family help. Amanda: That's what I think. Allegedly. Kori: Allegedly. Amanda: I would speculate that someone would have had to assist him. Kori: Yeah. Because despite how it looks on tv, dead bodies are freaking heavy. Amanda: Yes. It's just craziness to me. Kori: Yes. Amanda: There's just something fishy about. Kori: There's a woman in Idaho, in Bozeman, Montana, who went missing. Her name is Megan Ashley Stedman. She's been missing for at least two weeks. Her boyfriend, Chris Foils of Spokane, Washington. He was arrested on last Friday. So a week ago after her presumed death. And he was booked into Idaho's Bonneville county jail. Before his arrest, he waved his miranda and was shouting, I'm Chris foils. I killed my girlfriend. She's in an rv. They have been searching for Megan's boyfriend and the motorhome since she disappeared on December 15. I guess he told the police that he and Megan parked the motorhome in a Walmart parking lot in Idaho Falls around December 22, a few weeks before his Friday arrest. He told police that he stabbed her in the neck and then he stabbed her in the chest with the intent to kill her. He allegedly confessed to stabbing her several more times before she stopped moving. But family members of the 34 year old nail technician told the news that they knew something was wrong with the mother of two. Called on Christmas, never called on Christmas or her daughter's birthday. So her family has been searching for her for weeks after her best friend had contacted them and said she hadn't heard from them or heard from her. So they scoured the bars and holiday parties in the areas of Livington and Bozeman, where she had recently lived in her motorhome. And apparently they had distributed photos of the missing rv. And it had like a red stripe and a broken left taillight. All things that are very noticeable. Yeah. Apparently he repainted it. So the guy who called it in allegedly told the police that or allegedly told the sister that he almost overlooked it because he had painted the blue stripe. He painted the stripe blue instead of red. And he almost didn't call it in, but he called it in anyways. Amanda: Oh, man. Kori: Yeah. And apparently foils is a three time convicted domestic abuser and he had been free on bail. And then her dog is also missing. She was the youngest of four siblings. She had two kids, a daughter and a son. But they haven't found her body yet. So hopefully they'll find. Amanda: Yeah. Kori: Yeah. Amanda: The Michelleness trial has entered day five. Oh, she was the one who was dating Foidus Dulos, who was suspected of killing his wife, Jennifer Dulos, and then closing of her body all over Connecticut, but nobody ever found. Kori: Yeah. Amanda: Yeah. So she's on trial, which I find interesting. She's been charged with conspiracy to commit murder and other charge or other crimes on allegations that she actually helped the. Kori: Killing she would have had. Amanda: Oh gosh. Which that case is freaking bananas too. That is a wild case. He was such a bad guy. Yeah, such a bad guy. And he killed himself last year. Was he killed himself. It's carbon monoxide poisoning, which is dumb. Yeah. Bad dude. I listened to a case today about Matthew Hoffman. Yeah. So he broke into this house, this was back in 2010, 2011 in Ohio. Yeah. But he breaks into this house and basically decides he's going to stay there. After he was camping in the woods and he watched the homeowner leave. Well, an hour later she came back with her friend and he kills the mom and the friend and the eleven year old son. He wasn't there yet. Oh, he was just the mom and the friend. And he kills him, dismembers him and decides he's still going to hang out because hacking people up is exhausting. The kids come home from school, so he kills the ten year old son, takes the 13 year old daughter and brings her to his house and he keeps her for four days. In the meantime, he cuts up the little boy and takes their bodies to this tree, this old, like a hollowed tree and puts their dismembered body parts that are stuffed in these big black contractor trash bags, shoves those down the tree trunk and then keeps this little girl for four days. And his entire house is filled with leaves, like bags of leaves in the walls. He's got this tarp with like, it's like a 14 foot tarp in his living room full of leaves. And originally that's where investigators thought that there's bodies in here and he had already disposed of them. But yeah, he put this little girl in his basement in like a weird little dungeon basement thing and made her sleep on leaves. And thankfully she was found and she was rescued and she was safe. Right? Yeah, he was creep just wild and like denied having any knowledge of any of it. He didn't remember any of it and then told the FBI agent, like, I did it. But if you want me to tell you anything else, you're going to have to promise me that you're going to let me escape and you can shoot me. Right? But if it's not suicide by cop, I'm not telling you. And the FBI was like, no, that's not how we play. Kori: Right? Amanda: He did end up confessing but, yeah, I listened to that one. I was listening to that case today, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, this poor little girl. And then she goes on to live with her biological father and her stepmom, and then they ended up being charged with child abuse and domestic violence because the dad punched her and the stepmom pushed her down the stairs. Kori: Oh, jeez. Amanda: I'm like, what the ****? Kori: I didn't hear all that part. Amanda: Yeah, your kid was traumatized, and now you're, like, beating her up. **** you. Kori: Right? Amanda: I don't know what happened. Yeah, that's what I listened to. Today. I'm back on my true crime podcast. Podcast kick. I took a break from all of the true crime stuff for Christmas. I just wanted to live in my happy snowflake world, where hallmark channels reign true and dark. Kori: I really like unsolved mysteries. Amanda: Oh, you're a gross person. I do not. No, I hate that. Kori: I like to ponder it. Whatever happened. Amanda: I want the resolve. I want to know that you are not out there still being a dirty scumbag and, like, oh, not me. Kori: I don't care. Amanda: Oh, no, I do. Kori: I love it. Amanda: Oh, God, that's so funny. That one with the guy through the hotel. Kori: The what? Amanda: It was a guy. He jumped through a hotel. He got on top of a building. I think it was on, like, unsolved mysteries. It was on Netflix. He left, but he was, like, happily married or something. He left and then jumped through a hotel room or, like, a hotel, like a conference room, like, through the ceiling of it was. That one was wild to me. He couldn't have made that jump. I don't know. That's weird. I know. Ray Rivera. That's who it was. Kori: Well, fun. Amanda: In the Belvedere hotel in Mount Vernon in Baltimore, Maryland. It was ruled a probable, but, like, everything's super mysterious. And he ended up. I don't even remember. They came to Baltimore from California, I think I want to say was married. You guys should probably look this up and actually find out the real details. So he went missing from his house on May 16, 2016, after he had gotten a phone call, and he had a roommate, and he had, like, a live in girlfriend. He had a roommate, and I want to say the girlfriend was out of town, but he went missing, and for several days, nobody could find him. And they found his car. It was kind of by this hotel. And then his coworkers, they went to the top of this parking structure, kind of by where his car was, but the car wasn't in the parking structure. And then they noticed that there was a hole in the roof of the Belvedere Hotel. And they were like, hey, you guys should check this out. There's this hole. And so they go in there, and they find his partially decomposed body inside the conference room, like, under this hole in the ceiling. And I remember watching that one. That's, like, the one unsolved mysteries that I watched. And I was like, I can never watch these again. This guy jumps off a hotel room or off of a hotel and ends up in this building, but nobody knows why he ended up wearing flip flops. Kori: That's weird. Amanda: And so for him to get from this roof over to the second roof, because it wasn't just like a straight fall, you had to jump a distance, right? There's no way that his flip flops would have still been on his feet. And then I think one was found with him, and one was found next to him on the roof, next to the hole or something. And he had his glasses with him, he had his cell phone, and everything was pretty much intact, but he fell, like, 177ft. Kori: That's crazy, right? Amanda: And so don't you think something would be messed up? It's bananas. This is the podcast of all bananas. Because that's just what I keep saying, because apparently the world is bananas. I think he also left a note behind, but it didn't make any sense. And it talked about Hollywood. Like big wigs in Hollywood and movie titles. It talks about the Freemasons and his notes been analyzed by the FBI, but nobody ever figured out what the hell it meant because it was kind of like all. Yeah, yeah, it was. That's exactly. So he was featured. Let me just tell you how involved in unsolved mysteries I am. Kori: It was rambling. That's weird. Amanda: I know, right? I know. But no, his episode was the first episode on Netflix's reboot of unsolved mysteries in 2020. So if that gives you any indication of how much I enjoy unsolved mysteries. This whole case, I was like, oh, my gosh. Completely just consumed me because I was like, what? It doesn't make sense. And, yeah, I watched one. I watched episode one and I never returned. It's just crazy. You guys should take a look at it, though, because it's freaking wild. That one's a crazy case. Kori: I mean, it sounds crazy. Amanda: I know. You'll have to look at mean. It's on unsolved mysteries if you're watching. I do. Like, if it's on. If you watch it on Netflix, it's on there. If you have Netflix. I don't. Oh, yeah. Because your husband, Christopher, I would give. Kori: You mine, but they're really cracking down on that. I wouldn't watch my Netflix anymore. Amanda: That's fair. I wouldn't steal your password. Gosh. I would never use your password to access television. Kori: I know you wouldn't. No one would. I don't even know why I said that out loud. Nobody does that. Nobody watches anyone else's Netflix. Hulu, Disney plus. Amanda: No HBO. Kori: Max. Amanda: No. Kori: What else is there? Amanda: Nothing. Kori: ESPN. I don't freaking know all the things. Amanda: Don't you all get your own passwords? Getting everybody in trouble, right? I would never do that. Kori: Pretty soon all my stuff's going to be canceled. Amanda: We can't trust you. We don't know where you are. Are you in Colorado? Are you in Chicago? Where are you? Kori: Who's using this? What is happening? I don't know. Amanda: All over the place. Kori: Yeah, I got nothing. I don't know. Amanda: Hey, times are hard, okay? I know sometimes you got a password share, allegedly. Hypothetically. Kori: Yeah, hypothetically. Amanda: But I don't do that. Kori: If I was password sharing, people have been texting me because their passwords aren't working, and I would hypothetically have to change them every single day. So it's super fun. It's hypothetically super fun. I enjoy it a lot. Amanda: I have my own hulu. Kori: Oh, nice. Amanda: I'm not confirming how long I've had this, but I have my own Hulu now. Kori: Good for you. Amanda: Thanks. I like it. Kori: You have Hulu live or just regular Hulu? Amanda: No, I'm not paying $79 a month for Hulu live. That's banana. Kori: I like to watch live tv. Amanda: No, I'm not paying that. But really, you should watch that episode because it really was a good episode. It's Ray Rivera. Watch it. You should. Kori: Okay, I will. Probably won't, but I'll tell you I will. Amanda: All right, that's fair. At least you're telling me you will. All right, guys. Well, I think that's where we're going to leave you this week. Thank you for joining us for our super random crime update episode. Kori: Always entertaining. Amanda: I know it was a good time, and I am really glad. It was kind of like a nice change. A nice. Welcome back to 2024. Happy New Year, guys. Yeah, happy New Year. Made it this far. I hope you guys have set your resolutions or take a page out of my book and start it on February 1, because I am not ready for the new year. I have done nothing to prepare for it. So, February 1 is a new year for Colorado crime podcast. You're all welcome. But if you guys haven't already, please subscribe so you can be notified every time we upload, which is not every week. Kori: Few and far between. Amanda: We'll get better. Kori: If we're being honest, it's like once a month. Amanda: I know the holidays are really hard for us. Okay, guys? But if you do enjoy listening to us, when we do post, go ahead and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Kori: And also, in case anyone forgot, I did move a thousand miles away. Amanda: Oh, my God. Cory moved. Kori: It's been a little more difficult. Amanda: That is true. Kori: There's been a lot going on. So maybe it won't be every week, but it might be every other. Amanda: Yeah. Yeah. Kori: Every other week is an attainable goal. Amanda: We're here when we are. Okay? Kori: Yeah. Yeah. We've made it. Amanda: We're not dead. Kori: We're still alive. Amanda: We're still alive and kicking. Nobody's murdered us. We haven't murdered anybody. No cults have been started. I know. Get on that disappointment for you. Well, give us a follow on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube at Colorado crime pod for information on the next time we post, as well as other true crime happenings. We hope that you guys have a beautiful day wherever you are. And, as always, stay safe. Kori: Okay, we're out. Podcastians, have the day you deserve.